[mikhas]

xerxes2, one could also consider to port pychess' FICS support to Miniature ;-)

[xerxes2]

Tbh, I don't know what FICS is or Miniature more than it's your chess app (I don't got a n900 so I've never tried it). I don't know chess very well either for that matter. But as I'm already more or less done with my other app I'm looking for a new challenge. The only thing I've done so far is checked out Pychess' code and looked around a bit. I haven't written a single line of code yet but if I start working on it I'll have to talk to the Pychess devs and ask if they accept patches for it. If not I'll have to fork it anyway and might as well work on your app, if it's written in python.

[slvr32]

I just googled 'Qt Chess' and found a couple of Qt/C++ chess games, with source - ChessX is GPL, and I didn't stumble across the license for qtchess...

http://chessx.sourceforge.net/

http://qtchess.sourceforge.net/

And they both compile and run cleanly on my desktop linux (slackware) box, for starters

Edit: Hmm, not sure if QtChess requires a peer to peer game.

[mikhas]

This will be useful:
http://blog.mekk.waw.pl/archives/7-H...ot-part-I.html

[mikhas]

And this library contains an overview of useful FICS regex:
http://pyfics.sourceforge.net/pyfics...er-module.html

[mikhas]

FICS's style 12, explained (useful for parsing):
http://www.freechess.org/Help/HelpFiles/style12.html

[qgil]

mikhas, I guess you are using GNUChess 6 for Encore? I'm trying to find a list of features or some doc explaining what GNUChess can really do, but I'm having a hard time. Nothing I could see in their website and nothing I could see at http://svn.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/trunk/?root=chess

I guess http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/gnuchess/README i the best reference?

btw, I have started updating the wiki pages. I guess our first goal is to get Encore running with a UI on top, allowing a user to play against the 'computer'?

[mikhas]

Originally Posted by qgil

mikhas, I guess you are using GNUChess 6 for Encore? I'm trying to find a list of features or some doc explaining what GNUChess can really do, but I'm having a hard time.

Yup, gnuchess (but currently only version 5 on my box). Let's design with internet chess in mind. I would think that one can design playing vs. local engine as a subset of internet chess.

Originally Posted by qgil

btw, I have started updating the wiki pages. I guess our first goal is to get Encore running with a UI on top, allowing a user to play against the 'computer'?

Yeah well, from my last experience, a strictly sequential development model leads to wrong architecture. So now that I have a minimal working gnuchess backend, I want to start with a minimal working FICS backend (login, new game, moves). Developing those in parallel will hopefully give me the unified architecture that I aim for.

[qgil]

Originally Posted by slvr32

http://chessx.sourceforge.net/

"ChessX is an Open Source chess database. With ChessX you can operate on your collection of chess games in many ways:
browse, edit, add, organize, analyze, etc."

See the list of features at http://chessx.sourceforge.net/?q=node/6

According to the current Miniature roadmap (that needs heavy revision) we are really far from this point.

http://qtchess.sourceforge.net/

This one seems to be about peer 2 peer chess, which is a feature already implemented in Miniature through Telepathy Tubes. I don't know if there is anything that could be reused there e.g. how is the legality of moves checked.

PS: I don't know if GNU Chess can be used to check legality of moves already.

[qgil]

Originally Posted by mikhas

Yup, gnuchess (but currently only version 5 on my box). Let's design with internet chess in mind. I would think that one can design playing vs. local engine as a subset of internet chess.


Yeah well, from my last experience, a strictly sequential development model leads to wrong architecture. So now that I have a minimal working gnuchess backend, I want to start with a minimal working FICS backend (login, new game, moves). Developing those in parallel will hopefully give me the unified architecture that I aim for.

I don't know how relevant is this for your wor but GNU Chess 6 is a major rewrite and v5 is now unmaintained: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/in.../msg00015.html

OK, I like this strategy of Internet chess in the core, making the rest of modes a subset of this one. Undersood also the critique to linear development: let's go multithread. I will reflect this in the wiki.