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Old 06-30-2011, 12:35 PM
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For National Rail in the UK, there's http://traintimes.org.uk/ which presents an accessible view. Even if it's not got a machine-readable version (I've asked @dracos) it should be trivially screen-scraperable.

So, my use case is:
  • Configure journeys (start/end/operator/approximate time)
  • When you're within an hour or so of the approximate time, and your rough geolocation puts you in the same city as the appropriate station; add a notification about the next train departure (status, platform).
  • A maximum of one notification showing at a time.

Then, when running between Euston Square and Euston - as I'm often wont to do - I can glance at my phone to know that the 19:03 with Virgin Trains is at its usual platform 3, and on-time.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:42 PM
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Hi I am the developer of "Quando Parte", a program to monitor the train station departure and arrival tables, currently for the Italian railways. I am using the mobile version of Viaggiatreno and dumps from openstreetmap to find the nearest stations.

I plan a similar service for city bus lines; currently I know that my home town has something useful, and many large towns in Italy should have it too (electronic signposts are there...)

I can share my discoveries if anybody is interested.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:49 PM
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I'd like to join the development of app. Like many of us, I've a real use for it.

Looks like there will be plenty of ideas, so should we set up a project (wiki) page for them somewhere? Also it could be used to split the work.

Like smurfy, I wasn't included in the first batch of community-backed N950's. Hopefully we both have a better chance with the next batch.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:54 PM
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i'm living in lyon, france, and here, bus, tramway, trolley, funicular and metro are all managed by one organization, named TCL ("Transport en Commun Lyonnais").
I would like to develop a Qt app to show overlays on top of openstreempa or google map with :
1) the trajects
2) the stations (a click on one will show the schedule of passages)
3) the current location of each bus/train
4) my position and nearest stations
5) custom users destination for trajects

TCl has realtime showing of ETA for each bus on each stations so they surely have a channel to get these information, but how can i find a way to connect to it ?

for the rest i have no question, appart maybe, how to get the schedules in redeable format without having to parse the HTML code of the mobile site ? is there an api or something ?
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:55 PM
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New data source for Finland: real-time location of VR trains (in Finnish, sorry)
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:56 PM
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List of cities with public Google Transit data files available.
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Hi all,

Congrats to those who have been selected for a device already. i haven't made the first round, but I was interested in continuing/(redeveloping in qt) my Transperth app to a releasable state.

Not sure if something like this falls in to the category of a 'planner' application though - it was more for live departure times (rather than organising/planning a journey). I'm not sure if a separate app might be more suitable / easier for user to find/install for this?

But would be good to hear thoughts if this might fall in-scope?
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Not sure if something like this falls in to the category of a 'planner' application though - it was more for live departure times (rather than organising/planning a journey). I'm not sure if a separate app might be more suitable / easier for user to find/install for this?

But would be good to hear thoughts if this might fall in-scope?
This depends on the UI concept we want to have. There are some distinct use cases that we can either support all, or focus on just some of them:
  • Getting right now from current location to some other place (or meeting from calendar). This would be the place for ordering cabs as well
  • Checking approximate departure time for a trip in the future ("what time should I wake up if I want to be at the airport at 9am?")
  • "Tactical" travel planning ("what buses are leaving from my stop next?", "where the hell is the tram?")

It might be a good idea to start by making some UI sketches to see how these would fit together, following the UX guidelines
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Hey,

First off, thanks everyone for your interest and ideas!

Here are my thoughts on architecting how to make the app deal with multiple locations and web services:
  • Make a generic abstract class that is to be used for data sources
  • Each data source class could fetch information from a specific service in a specific country
  • The app would instantiate every class
  • When the user selects his/her starting point and destination, the app would query these objects to see which one is for the given country, and then it would query the web services through those instances that are for the country selected

This could make the app itself independent of the actual data sources.
Every one of us could implement such a class for his/her country, and we could join forces to develop the rest of the app.

The cab support could be then implemented in a similar manner too.

What do you think?
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:33 PM
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Not sure if something like this falls in to the category of a 'planner' application though - it was more for live departure times (rather than organising/planning a journey). I'm not sure if a separate app might be more suitable / easier for user to find/install for this?
We are still designing how to implement this app and what features should it have, so we are eager to hear your ideas too.
Please elaborate.
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